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		<title>By: Richard V.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good work! I want to commend you for a great build up this site. Wish you keep on coming up with useful posts such as this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good work! I want to commend you for a great build up this site. Wish you keep on coming up with useful posts such as this one.</p>
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		<title>By: FutureGov &#187; Useful links &#187; links for 2009-09-09</title>
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		<dc:creator>FutureGov &#187; Useful links &#187; links for 2009-09-09</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: SImon Collister</title>
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		<dc:creator>SImon Collister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 09:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK. Now we&#039;re getting somewhere.

Firstly... you could argue MPs are being disintermediated :) Absolutely agree that the flow of knowledge/power/money/etc through global networks makes traditional nation-states and their institutions increasingly redundant. Meanwhile people are still engaged politically (with a small &#039;p&#039;) on a local, community scale.

Secondly, small-scale participatory democracy has seemed to work since the birth of democracy. It only started to disenfranchise people when it was mass marketised. 

The principles of the above are pretty much proven, even in modern settings, through consensus decision making - used in organisations from Korean corporations down to the Climate Camp movement :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. Now we&#8217;re getting somewhere.</p>
<p>Firstly&#8230; you could argue MPs are being disintermediated <img src='http://sidekickstudios.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Absolutely agree that the flow of knowledge/power/money/etc through global networks makes traditional nation-states and their institutions increasingly redundant. Meanwhile people are still engaged politically (with a small &#8216;p&#8217;) on a local, community scale.</p>
<p>Secondly, small-scale participatory democracy has seemed to work since the birth of democracy. It only started to disenfranchise people when it was mass marketised. </p>
<p>The principles of the above are pretty much proven, even in modern settings, through consensus decision making &#8211; used in organisations from Korean corporations down to the Climate Camp movement <img src='http://sidekickstudios.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: adil</title>
		<link>http://sidekickstudios.net/blog/the-politics-of-the-voicebot/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>adil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 09:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@simon i would have totally disagreed with you about 10 years ago, and maybe even 10 months ago, but I do wonder more and more what the role of MPs is in a world where the web can enable us to find local community, self-organised based solutions, and at the other end, globalisation is raging and the power of national states is diminishing. we&#039;re nowhere near finding the answer, but if I was an MP stuck in the middle, I&#039;d be worried. 

Someone suggested yesterday in all seriousness that we should just replace MPs with robots, and people vote on what buttons we want the robot to press. I suppose a more human form would be more like Ebbsfleet community-owned football club http://www.myfootballclub.co.uk/ where owners vote on everything the club does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@simon i would have totally disagreed with you about 10 years ago, and maybe even 10 months ago, but I do wonder more and more what the role of MPs is in a world where the web can enable us to find local community, self-organised based solutions, and at the other end, globalisation is raging and the power of national states is diminishing. we&#8217;re nowhere near finding the answer, but if I was an MP stuck in the middle, I&#8217;d be worried. </p>
<p>Someone suggested yesterday in all seriousness that we should just replace MPs with robots, and people vote on what buttons we want the robot to press. I suppose a more human form would be more like Ebbsfleet community-owned football club <a href="http://www.myfootballclub.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.myfootballclub.co.uk/</a> where owners vote on everything the club does.</p>
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		<title>By: SImon Collister</title>
		<link>http://sidekickstudios.net/blog/the-politics-of-the-voicebot/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>SImon Collister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Adil et al. Awesome post; it echoes many of the things I&#039;ve blogged about over the years.

To add to the layer of questions: direct democracy is a far better approach to political organisation than representative democracy. And its significantly more viable thanks to the internet. In fact technology has been a driving force for much political change - cf. development of domestic technology and the electoral emancipation of women.

Direct democracy will likely remove the need for MPs and political parties - which as irreducible hierarchical institutions - won&#039;t have a role, i.e. if people represent themselves then we wont need to pay others (MPs) to do so.

Just some more thoughts of mine. Not sure how this all plays out in wider society, but there are a number of viable alternatives based on an anarchy (which is a very well organised, peaceful system rather than chaos as often portrayed) which should really be explored further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Adil et al. Awesome post; it echoes many of the things I&#8217;ve blogged about over the years.</p>
<p>To add to the layer of questions: direct democracy is a far better approach to political organisation than representative democracy. And its significantly more viable thanks to the internet. In fact technology has been a driving force for much political change &#8211; cf. development of domestic technology and the electoral emancipation of women.</p>
<p>Direct democracy will likely remove the need for MPs and political parties &#8211; which as irreducible hierarchical institutions &#8211; won&#8217;t have a role, i.e. if people represent themselves then we wont need to pay others (MPs) to do so.</p>
<p>Just some more thoughts of mine. Not sure how this all plays out in wider society, but there are a number of viable alternatives based on an anarchy (which is a very well organised, peaceful system rather than chaos as often portrayed) which should really be explored further.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve said it before but I&#039;ll say it again anyway.  If we take away The Voicebot so we are simply left with an online or mobile short message system direct to the government which is analyzed by repetition of words to create a very simple tag cloud.  This could still be used by policy makers, local government and MPs alike to learn more quickly what the buzz issues are for the people in their constituency...region...country this day or week or month.  

Decision makers could access qualitative snapshots of what is being said or complained about and get a little closer to the real people out there without having to wade through paperwork, knock on people&#039;s doors or make inaccurate generalisations.  It could help them become more dynamic politicans.  Maybe.

The low level involvement from the public should encourage more people to speak up and it could become like a crowd sourced democracy.  But maybe I&#039;m being a bit too idealistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve said it before but I&#8217;ll say it again anyway.  If we take away The Voicebot so we are simply left with an online or mobile short message system direct to the government which is analyzed by repetition of words to create a very simple tag cloud.  This could still be used by policy makers, local government and MPs alike to learn more quickly what the buzz issues are for the people in their constituency&#8230;region&#8230;country this day or week or month.  </p>
<p>Decision makers could access qualitative snapshots of what is being said or complained about and get a little closer to the real people out there without having to wade through paperwork, knock on people&#8217;s doors or make inaccurate generalisations.  It could help them become more dynamic politicans.  Maybe.</p>
<p>The low level involvement from the public should encourage more people to speak up and it could become like a crowd sourced democracy.  But maybe I&#8217;m being a bit too idealistic.</p>
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		<title>By: adil</title>
		<link>http://sidekickstudios.net/blog/the-politics-of-the-voicebot/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@benedict as much as i think the current party political system is utterly broken, i don&#039;t think the solution is people talking directly to personality politicians. in truth, we&#039;ve had a government for 12 years which is in spite of its party, and we&#039;ll probably have something similar when the Tories get there go, but I really don&#039;t know what goes in its place. The Voicebot is a prototype, but its certainly not the solution. more musing required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@benedict as much as i think the current party political system is utterly broken, i don&#8217;t think the solution is people talking directly to personality politicians. in truth, we&#8217;ve had a government for 12 years which is in spite of its party, and we&#8217;ll probably have something similar when the Tories get there go, but I really don&#8217;t know what goes in its place. The Voicebot is a prototype, but its certainly not the solution. more musing required.</p>
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		<title>By: Benedict Pringle</title>
		<link>http://sidekickstudios.net/blog/the-politics-of-the-voicebot/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Benedict Pringle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, thanks for the comment and I like this article - some serious soul searching about the state of the democratic nation!  I think you&#039;re point about everyone having their own hyper-niche agenda is really interesting.  I am actually a great believer in political parties as a vehicle for organising democracy, but I think they way we organise / fund them needs a serious rethink if they&#039;re going to be fit for democracy in the 21st century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, thanks for the comment and I like this article &#8211; some serious soul searching about the state of the democratic nation!  I think you&#8217;re point about everyone having their own hyper-niche agenda is really interesting.  I am actually a great believer in political parties as a vehicle for organising democracy, but I think they way we organise / fund them needs a serious rethink if they&#8217;re going to be fit for democracy in the 21st century.</p>
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